- Overall Length
- 47.5 mm P
- Shank Length
- 33 mm
- Gap Width
- 8.6 mm P
- Wire Diameter
- 0.76 mm
- Shank-to-Gap Ratio
- ~3.6-4.2 : 1
- Confidence
- P Physical specimen
Physical measurement with calipers
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Mustad 36717 Limerick, size No. 2. A traditional heavy-wire Limerick hook manufactured in Norway by O. Mustad & Son and imported through O. Mustad & Son (U.S.A.) Inc., Auburn, New York, during the mid-20th century. Its defining features include a classic Limerick bend, turned-down ball eye, forged construction, hollow point, and bronzed finish.
The specimen is housed in its original Key Brand cardboard box labeled ‘Made in Norway’ with a quantity of 100 hooks. The packaging provides strong evidence for the model designation and export-market distribution.
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Limerick Bend Geometry: The Limerick is distinguished by a pronounced angular bend with a deep vertical drop from shank to barb, creating an efficient hook for subsurface presentations. Unlike the more rounded Sproat, the Limerick features a sharp ‘corner’ at the bend’s bottom — approximately 90 degrees or slightly less — that maximizes hook-set leverage and penetration in firm-jawed fish.
Hollow Point Design: The hollow point (concave inner face) on this model provides superior hook-set mechanics by creating a thin, sharp leading edge that cuts through the fish’s mouth tissue with minimal force requirement. The inwardly curved geometry also reduces barb closure risk during the strike and increases the effective hooking angle across a wider fish orientation range.
Wire and Forging: Standard-gauge round wire, forged (not simply bent), allows Mustad to achieve consistent temper and uniform bend-line stiffness. Forging also redistributes material along the bend to strengthen the corner — critical for a design with such a defined angle. The round profile (as opposed to flattened forging) reduces drag in water and creates a cleaner bend transition.
Ball Eye Design: The turned-down ball eye provides a secure knot junction with minimal slippage, a critical feature for commercial and production-tier hooks where uniform construction speed was prioritized. The ball form is produced by upsetting (heading) the wire end, creating a reinforced closure that is less prone to fraying than a loop eye.
Physical measurement with calipers
No catalog records established. Mustad 36717 is a common production model with minimal rarity or special significance within garrenwood.com scope.
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O. Mustad & Son was founded in Gjøvik, Norway and became one of the world’s largest fishing hook manufacturers. During the twentieth century the company established O. Mustad & Son (U.S.A.) Inc. in Auburn, New York to support North American sales and distribution. The specimen documented here was manufactured in Norway, as indicated by the original packaging, and imported through the Auburn organization.
The Mustad Limerick bend is not a single ‘series’ in the formal sense but rather a foundational bend profile offered across dozens of distinct model codes, spanning over eight decades of continuous production. The Limerick is among the oldest surviving bend designs in modern fly fishing, with origins in mid-19th-century British tackle making.
Model 36717 specifically appears to be a variant within Mustad’s mid-range production portfolio, introduced no later than the 1960s as part of their rationalization of product codes following the Auburn facility opening. The Key Brand labeling suggests this particular model was marketed primarily through wholesale channels and tackle shop ‘house brand’ programs rather than direct retail.
The 36717 remained in production at least through the 1970s, with no evidence of discontinuation in readily available catalogs. Modern Mustad Limerick hooks (e.g., 9672, 9671) continue the same bend geometry and construction philosophy, though they incorporate updated materials and finishes. The 36717 represents a transitional design — still using traditional blind-wrapped construction and bronzed finish — that began to be phased out in favor of chemically blackened and plated variants by the 1980s.
No barcode on box — indicates pre-1974 manufacture V. Blue label with black text on tan cardboard is consistent with Mustad US packaging c. 1960-1975. Address 'O. Mustad & Son (U.S.A.) Inc., Auburn, N.Y. 13021' is characteristic of post-1950s Auburn, NY distribution center labeling. Phone number format not present on label (typical omission on value-line cards). Cardboard box construction with offset-printed label and paper stock condition all consistent with early-1960s production. No plastic packaging; all-cardboard with kraft wrapping is pre-1970s standard.
The Key Brand trademark was one of the brands used by Mustad on North American packaging during the mid-20th century. The surviving packaging demonstrates its use, although the specific marketing strategy and product positioning relative to other Mustad brands have not been well documented.
The Mustad 36717 Limerick is primarily designed for wet-fly and streamer fishing in streams and lakes. The compact standard shank, moderate gap, and angular bend make it ideal for classic soft-hackle wet flies, traditional North Country spiders, and small streamer patterns. The size No. 2 is typical for streamers targeting medium-sized trout and sea-run brook trout in small to medium rivers.
The hollow point and tight barb configuration favor clear-water presentations where hook sharpness and immediate penetration are essential. The bronzed finish reduces visibility in clear or very shallow water, making it suitable for sight-fishing scenarios where flash from bright finishes would spook fish.
Secondary applications include general baitfish imitation and use as a utility hook in tackle boxes where versatility is valued over specialization. The robust construction allows it to handle larger insects (salmon flies, streamers up to 1/0 size) without risk of bend failure.
| Hook | Match Quality | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| Mustad 9672 Limerick | Very Good | A modern functional equivalent with broadly similar proportions, but not a documented direct successor to the 36717. |
| Partridge K12ST Limerick | Good | Competitive Limerick design from British maker; similar bend but Partridge uses different eye and shank conventions |
| Daiichi 1270 Limerick | Good | Japanese Limerick variant with wire-straightness modern tolerance; functional equivalent for fly tying |
Industry cross-reference
4X–6X long shank large articulated streamers
| Ahrex | TP605Spec record TP615Spec record |
|---|---|
| Core | C2461Chart only |
| Daiichi | 1750Spec record 2220Spec record |
| Firehole | 839Chart only 860Chart only |
| Hanák | H900BLChart only H950BLChart only |
| Mustad | 3665AFull record L87Chart only R74Chart only R75Chart only |
| Orvis | JA0167Chart only JA1511Chart only |
| Partridge | CS17Chart only |
| Tiemco | 300Chart only 9395Chart only |
Green entries are full records; amber entries are spec records. Gray entries are chart-only and not physically verified against this specimen.
Rated 2.5/10 — Mustad industrial production volumes make this common despite age; collector demand is minimal. Size No. 2 is useful for general fishing but lacks specialty appeal.
Original factory cardboard box, tan kraft-paper stock. Dimensions approximately 4.5" × 2.75" × 0.75" (closed). Blue offset-printed label adhered to front face featuring Mustad logo (double-M sword), 'Key Brand' text, stylized fish-hook graphic, 'MADE IN NORWAY | FABRIQUE EN NORVEGE' bilingual text, 'FISH-HOOKS' designation, and manufacturer attribution 'O. Mustad & Son (U.S.A.) Inc., Auburn, N.Y. 13021'. Specification block printed in black: 'QUAL. 36717 | NO. 2 | QTY. 100'. Remaining side panels and lid feature printed hook-count guides and reorder information. Interior lined with printed cardboard tissue divider and 100 hooks arranged in rows. No barcode present. Specimen condition: lid shows creasing and age toning; label remains vibrant; all hooks intact and uncorroded.
Low ($4): Good condition — opened box, all hooks present, minor wear<br />
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High ($12): Excellent condition — sealed or near-sealed box, original tissue intact, pristine hooks<br />
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Premium factors: Sealed original packaging, intact label, complete hook count, attractive Key Brand graphics<br />
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Platforms: eBay, vintage tackle dealers, online fishing memorabilia sites<br />
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Confidence: E estimated — limited comparable sales data for this specific model; typical Mustad production-era boxes sell in $3-15 range
Mustad 36717 specimens in original packaging appear sporadically on eBay (mainly US and UK sellers), typically in general vintage fishing tackle lots. Complete unopened boxes are rare; opened boxes with full hook count are more common. Specialized vintage tackle dealers occasionally stock Mustad mid-century production lines. Tackle fairs and fishing memorabilia shows (particularly in the Northeast US and UK) are reliable sources. Condition and completeness vary widely; prices reflect box condition more than hook utility.
Box and Label: Mustad 36717 specimens appear almost exclusively in original cardboard boxes with the blue ‘Key Brand’ label featuring the distinctive double-M logo and ‘FISH-HOOKS’ text. The label design is consistent across 1960-1970s Mustad Key Brand products; changes in typeface, logo weight, or label color indicate later production or a different Mustad sub-brand.
Marking Code: The printed label clearly states ‘QUAL. 36717 | NO. 2 | QTY. 100’. The format is offset-printed in black on tan cardboard or kraft-paper label stock. Handwritten prices (if present) indicate retail or distributive markup from the original sale point.
Address and Country: ‘O. Mustad & Son (U.S.A.) Inc., Auburn, N.Y. 13021’ confirms Auburn facility distribution (post-1950s). Earlier Mustad packaging used different US addresses or Norwegian manufacturer attribution. The bilingual ‘MADE IN NORWAY | FABRIQUE EN NORVEGE’ statement is standard for exports and North American distribution.
Hook Characteristics: Size No. 2 Limerick specimens of this era are consistently forged, with bright bronzed finish, round standard-gauge wire, and either TDE ball or TDE tapered eyes. Blind-eye or looped-up versions are rare in Key Brand line (more common in higher-end ‘Superior’ brand).
Condition Indicators: Original boxes typically show light toning and edge wear. Hooks should be bright with no corrosion — oxidation or rust indicates poor storage or a fake/reproduction. Complete 100-hook count is normal; missing hooks reduce value significantly.
Store the original box in a cool, dry environment away from direct sunlight and high humidity. The bronzed finish is naturally patina-prone, and humidity exposure will accelerate oxidation; this is generally considered desirable by vintage collectors but avoid extreme dampness that can cause corrosion.
Do not open or disturb the original packaging unless absolutely necessary for inspection. Intact original tissue wrapping and box sealing add measurable value. If hooks must be removed, store them in acid-free paper or archival-grade plastic sleeves to prevent cross-contamination with other metals that may cause galvanic corrosion.
Keep the box away from solvents, oils, and other chemical exposures. Original cardboard stock is brittle at this age and susceptible to staining and structural degradation if exposed to spills. A stable indoor shelf location (not basement or attic) is ideal.
Periodic light inspection for any signs of corrosion or box pest damage is reasonable; more frequent handling is unnecessary and risks damage to the brittle cardstock.
Source: Original manufacturer box label, Mustad 36717 specimen, measured and examined in hand by researcher, 2024
The printed label provides three layers of manufacturer information: the ‘Key Brand’ logo (secondary brand), the Mustad double-M sword, and the corporate attribution ‘O. Mustad & Son (U.S.A.) Inc., Auburn, N.Y. 13021’. This specificity narrows the production window to the post-1950s Auburn facility era.
The bilingual French text (‘FABRIQUE EN NORVEGE’) indicates export-market labeling rather than domestic Norwegian distribution. This supports the inference that 36717 boxes were produced at the Auburn facility for North American wholesale and retail distribution, not for European markets.
The three-field specification layout (QUAL. | NO. | QTY.) is consistent with Mustad’s mid-century commercial packaging format. Later Mustad production adopted barcode labeling and different typographic standards, allowing easy separation of this item into the 1960-1975 window based on packaging alone.
| P | Photographically verified — Directly observable in the photograph(s) on this page. |
| V | Verified by documentation — Confirmed by manufacturer catalog, spec sheet, or published reference. |
| I | Inferred — A logical deduction from observable or documented evidence, not directly stated. |
| E | Estimated — An approximation based on visual comparison, proportional analysis, or limited data. |
| S | Speculative — A reasoned hypothesis that cannot be confirmed from available evidence. |
Claims with no notation are confirmed by multiple independent sources. All photographs on garrenwood.com are taken on a measurement grid where each square equals 1/10 inch (0.1″ / 2.54 mm).
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