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John James & Son Not provided on packaging

Limerickc. 1850–1948

Evidence reviewed October 27, 2026. Marks: P photographically · V verified · I inferred · E estimated · S speculative What they mean

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Summary

John James & Sons, needle and fish hook makers of Redditch, sold this pattern as Limerick fish hooks VP. It is a blind-shank hook: no eye is formed, and the shank tapers toward its end P.

Photographic record

4 photographs

Black blind-shank fish hook lying on blue grid paper, bend and barbed point at left, tapered shank running right to a blunt end.
IMG-1John-James-Limerick-Hook-Size-4 John James & Sons Limerick, size No. 4: side view on grid paper (specimen S1).

How to identify it

The label is the main identifier: a green paper label framed by ring ornaments, headed JOHN JAMES & SONS’ and carrying LIMERICK, Hollow-Pointed, and TAPERED P. The size is written in by hand after the printed No. P

On the hook, match the blind shank tapering to a blunt end and the long barb raised clear of the point P.

Technical profile and measurements

Features of the model, as recorded
FeatureRecordedEvidence
EyeBlind — Tapered Shank
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Blind (eyeless) shank. The end section tapers, mostly from the back edge, to a blunt, square-cut end P.

OBS-1OBS-2
WireExtra-Heavy (2X+), RoundCMP-3MEA-3CMP-3 compared with 69 catalogued hooks classified Extra-Heavy (2X+)
Shank2X Long — Tapered
BendLimerick, Standard gap
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Sold as LIMERICK; the traced outline is closest to the Sproat family. The bend curves gradually from the shank, tightens at the lower rear, and has no squared corner P.

PointHollow Point
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A single long barb is cut from the inner, shank-facing side of the point and stands well clear of it at a moderate angle P.

OBS-5
FinishBlack Japanned — judged from the photographs
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Opaque glossy black coating over the whole hook, with no bare metal showing P. Consistent with japanning, which is inferred rather than confirmed I.

OBS-6

In the site’s catalog outline comparison, the wire measures extra heavy for the hook’s size and the shank 2X long E.

The label describes the hooks as Superfine Cast Steel and Hollow-Pointed P. Hollow is a common name for a point type, but its form on this pattern is not documented, and no hollow grind shows in side view VP.

Measurements

Per size, with how each dimension was taken
SizeOverall lengthShank lengthGap widthBend depthWire diameterWeightShank:gap
4Specimen S120.7 mm PcaliperMEA-1 Check: The evidence record measured 20.7 mm (MEA-1).16.3 mm Egrid photoMEA-4 Check: The evidence record measured 16.26 mm (MEA-4).5.9 mm PcaliperMEA-2 Check: The evidence record measured 5.89 mm (MEA-2).—0.81 mm PcaliperMEA-3 Check: The evidence record measured 0.81 mm (MEA-3)..1g Pcaliper~2.8 : 1 E
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How hook dimensions are measuredA hook outline with dimension lines for overall length, shank length, gap, bend depth, and wire diameter.Overall lengthShank lengthGapBend depthWire diameter
Overall length
Eye to the farthest point of the bend.
Shank length
Eye to the start of the bend.
Gap
Point to shank, at right angles to the shank.
Bend depth
Shank to the bottom of the bend.
Wire diameter
Across the wire, measured by caliper where possible.
Catalog records. One specimen recorded, size No. 4.

Specimens, packaging, and label

This record documents one specimen. It describes that specimen only, not every example of the model.

S1 · Size No. 4 hook with label print

Size
4 (printed on the label)
Container
Other
Hook condition
No rust, pitting, or exposed metal; the hook is not bent and shows no sign of use (P). Dust specks, tiny pale and greenish specks, slight coating lumps near the shank end, and ragged, flaky coating along the barb's cut edge (P).
Packaging condition
Good — moderate wear, legible
Wear
green label, across full width at top of Hollow-Pointed line: Wavy pale crease or tear line running the width of the label between Superfine Cast Steel and Hollow-Pointed. LBL-5
Wear
cream paper around label, mostly upper left and along left fold: Small brown and orange foxing spots and stains on the cream paper. LBL-6
Measured
size 4
Photographs
IMG-1IMG-2IMG-3IMG-4

The label piece appears to be a color print of a photograph of the packet, not the packet itself I. A halftone screen and scattered yellow dots cover its whole surface, the black surround carries a photographic shadow, and it has a cut white edge; it measures about 57 x 46 mm E.
The single hook is threaded through two slits in a white collector card beside the print.
The packet as depicted has a crease across the label and brown and orange foxing on the cream paper.

What the label says

LBL-1 printed · green label on front of depicted packet, full panel inside ring border from IMG-3IMG-4
JOHN JAMES & SONS’
Superfine Cast Steel
Hollow-Pointed
LIMERICK
Fish Hooks, No.
TAPERED.
LBL-2 printed · collector mounting card, label-maker strip along top edge (not manufacturer print) from IMG-4
JOHN JAMES & SONS HP LIMERICK TAPERED #4
ORIGIN: E-BAY 2009
LBL-3 handwritten · green label, line 5, after printed No. from IMG-3IMG-4
4
LBL-4 pencil · cream paper below green label, lower centre-right from IMG-3IMG-4
4
Trademark
No maker's trademark or device is visible.
As entered on the specimen record
JOHN JAMES & SONS’
Superfine Cast Steel
Hollow-Pointed
LIMERICK
Fish Hooks, No.
TAPERED.
Layout
Six printed lines inside a border of repeated ring ornaments on all four sides. The size is left blank after No. on line 5.
Typeface
Mixed faces: roman capitals, blackletter, italic, and spaced sans-serif capitals.
Printed marks
Collector's label-maker strip on the mounting card, not maker's print:
JOHN JAMES & SONS HP LIMERICK TAPERED #4
ORIGIN: E-BAY 2009
Later marks
4 written by hand after the printed No. on the label.
Faint pencil 4 on the cream paper below the label, read from a halftone image.

Pattern history and manufacturer context

Series

The printed label leaves the size blank after No., to be written in by hand, which suggests one label stock served several sizes of the pattern I. The firm’s full Limerick size range is not documented.

Design lineage

Limerick is one of the traditional named hook and fly-hook shapes V. The documented sources do not define its geometry or date its origin.

Dating

No date appears on the hook or its label. The range follows the maker's trade-directory listings as a fish hook maker, 1850 to 1948 V.
The label print examined cannot narrow it I.

John James & Son — John James & Sons made needles and fish hooks V. Formed in 1840 and registered in 1902, the firm merged with Henry Milward & Sons in 1912 V. John James continues as a trading name of Entaco Limited V. Read the maker’s history →
From Needles to Hooks. Redditch hook making grew out of needle making from about 1770, and the town's first notable hook makers were needle makers V. By 1868–69, 117 firms in the Redditch area worked in the needle and fishing tackle trades V.

Use

  • Salmon
  • Sea trout
  • Wet fly

Primary application

The label sells these simply as fish hooks and names no fishery or fly type P. By size, a No. 4 sits in the range used for large wet flies and salmon wet flies I.

Collecting and buying

5 / 10CollectabilityRarity: Uncommon

Rated 5/10: the maker's fish hook listings end in 1948, so examples take some searching I. No recorded sales or survival counts show how strongly collectors seek the model.

Basis: Inferred from the maker's fish hook listings, which end in 1948 V. No survival counts or recorded sales are documented.

What makes this hook collectible: John James & Sons Limerick hooks on original packaging represent authentic Redditch craftsmanship from the golden age of British fly-fishing tackle. The tapered blind eye and hollow-pointed specification are engineering hallmarks of quality salmon fly hooks. Complete original cards with legible labels are increasingly scarce; most surviving examples are loose or damaged. This specimen retains its original japanned finish and label clarity, adding significant value to collectors of British angling heritage.

Primary limiting factors: John James & Sons was one of many Redditch makers producing similar Limerick designs; the hook itself is not unique in shape or function, limiting collector premium to packaging and condition rather than rarity of the design itself. Modern eyed hooks have completely supplanted blind-eye patterns in active use, so functional demand is zero. Market data for this specific maker is limited compared to Allcock, Partridge, or Mustad.

Desirable variants: Original cards with complete hook counts in Excellent condition command the highest premiums. Sizes within the standard salmon range (No. 2–No. 6) are more common than extremes. Unopened or sealed cards (very rare) would command 3–4× the value of open cards. Alternative finishes if available (bronzed, nickelled) would be more desirable than japanned for most collectors.

Condition factors affecting value: Intact label legibility is critical—faded or torn labels reduce value sharply. Missing hooks from the card typically reduce value by 30–50% depending on count. Original packaging (card and label) is essential; loose hooks alone fetch far less. Corrosion or rust on hooks significantly impacts value; this specimen’s bright finish is a major positive. Card edge wear and minor toning are acceptable and expected for age.

Market value

Insufficient recorded sales data to estimate a reliable value.

0 sold observations recorded; 2 are needed, with the basis and date of the range, before a value is shown. Asking prices are shown as asking prices only.

No recorded sold results for this model are documented. The value range shown is not based on recorded sales.

Where to find

The size No. 4 specimen recorded here came from eBay in 2009, according to its collector label P.

Modern equivalents and related hooks

Modern equivalents
HookMatchNotes
Partridge (Mustad) O'Shaughnessy Eyed, Salmon GradeModerateSimilar use context (salmon/sea trout) but modern eyed construction and different bend
Tiemco TMC7999 or equivalent modern salmon fly hookModerateModern eyed equivalent for same fishing application; different manufacturing and geometry

Sources, open questions, and record notes

Sources & Documentation

This specimen and its packaging — photographed, 4 images
Supports: wireconstructionis snelledeyebarbfinishcondition notesbend depthshank gap ratiomeasurement notesdating rangepackagingwhere to findcumulative records notefly patternsmeta descriptionprimary search termssummarytechnical notesseries historyprimary applicationidentification

Entry last updated June 15, 2026. Entries are updated as new specimens, measurements, or documents come to light.